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Storm Project Rooftop by jacksonjedge Storm Project Rooftop by jacksonjedge
This is my Storm redesign for Project Rooftop that at least 20 people made better designs for. I also received the super sweet comment of, "I know art isn’t supposed to be a component, but why is Jackson Edge’s design melting? There’s not even much of a design there, it’s just black jeans and a “tribal” jacket." Thanks, Scalfin (sarcasm)! Here are some of the others: www.tencentticker.com/projectr…
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cspencey Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I got trashed by scalfin hard man, hate pretentious arses who think they everything about a continent because they've been on holiday there...
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013
Agreed. Dude was weirdly invested in his comment for some reason. Hilarious. I am not sure if eastern Africa really defines the character. Especially considering that she has been mostly in America since the mid 70's.
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samatict Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013
I think that people forcing hardcore ethnic costumes and accessories on the character are dipping way into cultural caricatures. It's like, the only way to show she's a black woman is to dump a bunch of African imagery on her ROFL! Storm's time in Egypt was as an impoverished street orphan. so I doubt she'd have fond memories of Cairo (especially considering she gained her claustrophobia from the trauma of her childhood). I can see her time in the Sahara desert to be more gratifying (she was worshipped as a goddess there after all), but her time with the X-men would have a bigger impact on her nowadays, I think.
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013
I divorced mine from continuity because I have little interest in it outside of the things I vaguely remember about the character from the late eighties. Last I heard was she was married to Black Panther and was the Queen of Wakanda or  something. I figured it gave everyone carte blanche to do what they want with Marvel's fictional Africa. In hindsight, that might been a naive idea of 2013's internet comic culture. Most of these pieces from the contest are guilty of some form of appropriation. I was interested in taking the character away from Western morality and patriarchal ideas. I thought I was going to get more crap about her jacket popping open and showing her breasts. 
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samatict Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013
I don't find your main outfit to be a cultural caricature, since it's jeans and a jacket. The accessories are probably the more ethnic elements, but those are easily covered by your Wakandan queen explanation. I was mostly referring to people who decided Storm was gonna be in Egyptian garb or some tribal getup for whatever reason. Wakanda is not in Egypt, Storm was born in Manhattan and subsequently Americanized by the X-men, and there is zero reason for her to be doing tribal cosplay at this stage in her life.

Most people who did those kind of cultural caricatures didn't even make the honorable mentions list, so I think the judges share my assessment. I was thinking Claire Hummel's submission would make it in, but it looks like the judges weren't interested in such visual shorthand. I personally find it a bit cringe-inducing, like giving a Native American character a bunch of feathers, braids, and face paint to get across to people that, "Hai u gusy he's a Injun lol"!

Now, I don't find it racist or anything sociopolitically offensive. In fact, I really liked Claire Hummel's drawing (and I actually thought it had a shot at winning). I just find the whole African tribe gimmick to be laughably misplaced for the character at this time.

As an aside, divorcing your submission from continuity probably cost you a few points. The rules of that site for their redesign contest specifically states "… that the task is not to re-imagine the characters, but to revise ONLY their costuming, as if it is to be used in current continuity". I could see your outfit as something Storm would wear casually, but the winners were noticeably superhero uniforms.
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013
There are rules? I should probably start reading the fine print on these types of things. That completely changes what I should do on these things. Probably not the time to challenge the idea of superhero costuming with high fashion popstar rags.
I think I saw the Claire Hummel one somewhere else. It looks rushed. I could also see it simply being to obvious a Egyptian themed costume. Like Elizabeth Taylor (RIP 2011) Cleopatra (RIP 30 BCE) Egypt.  At least she didn't use any neck rings. 

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samatict Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013
Hah, yeah, there are rules. I don't know how strict the judges are, but almost all winning entries across all their events so far have been superhero action outfits. I think only the Fantastic Four winner seems to be the exception with the t-shirt and cargo pants ensemble (and even then, the judges' comments indicate that they viewed the outfits as superhero uniforms).

High fashion popstar designs might go over well with characters that are known to be performers (Dazzler, Lila Cheney, Zatanna, etc). Non-combat garb does well on that site for their non-events (like the civilian-wear section, Off-Duty). If you really want to break from continuity, they also have a section that dresses up characters in a new context.
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013
Well, thanks for the eye opening. I will be reigning it in the future. You doing the Black Terror one?
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RanceWasHere Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is awesome! I fucking love that jacket!  And the hair is gorgeous too.  I feel like this is one of the best outfit designs I've seen for her.
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
Why thank you. I really appreciate it. I tried to mix up some of the daring styles of the neo-soul women with some nods to an African indigenous culture called Himba that aesthetically pleased me.
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RanceWasHere Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's awesome! I feel like that's a jacket that could easily transition over to the runways.  Great job!
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013
Seriously, thank you.
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RanceWasHere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No problem :)
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samatict Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013
Is it cloudy with a chance of meatballs? Is that what that is? It looks like a shot of her in the sky surrounded by clouds, looking downwards at the fields and buildings below.
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
Delicious meatballs. I was going for a Jack Kirby psychedelic space collage, and wanted Storm to seem unconcerned with the craziness around her because she is such a boss.
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samatict Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
Oh. Mmh. I dunno. I liked it better when I thought you were using the collage to represent a shot of the ground from high up. I thought the meatballs were clouds, the electronic bits were buildings, the stripes were fields, and the swirls were gardens. Oh well.

I like your collage idea, and I think Storm would have benefited from the cut-out technique you used on The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Also, I don't understand why scalfin thinks your design is melting. Is he critiquing your actual line work, or is he just confused by the beads on her face, or what?
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
Storm was supposed to be a good distance away from the goings on, but the collage was an abstraction. So, you were totally right! I might start including some more cut paper technique into my figures. That process is more way time consuming though, and this was done on quite a deadline. I honestly have no clue what scalfin is on about. My stuff does have a thick and wobbly brushline. Maybe that is it. Definitely not typical with what the rest of the people put on Project: Rooftop. I thought it was the water dripping from her hand.
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samatict Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
Ah, okay, for some reason I read your "psychedelic space collage" to mean she was actually in space, surrounded by Kirby dots and space rays. I like the aerial map view interpretation better. Also, as far as your line work goes, I prefer your crisper, graphic work (like the Queen of Hearts illustration). but I wouldn't describe this style as "melting". It's more of a frenetic shakiness, like Robert Crumb drawings (or a rougher Charles Burns).
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
Crumb and Burns are obviously HUGE with me. People do seem to be really into clean dead lines right now. Maybe I'll try it on the next one of these things. It will probably be frantic and shaky though (I am in the depths of a pretty serious coffee addiction in an attempt to keep up with all of my current responsibilities) . It is just never what got me off I guess. Everyone piece of art is still part of a larger evolution. I would like to start cleverly integrating everything into every piece. Maybe one day. 
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samatict Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
Oh, good! You're not insulted by the comparison to Crumb and Burns. Every time I compare people's work to underground comics illustrations I get concerned that they'll interpret it as some kind of backhanded compliment.

I once commented that this one person's work reminded me of Christy Karacas … and that was not received well, LOL! They blocked my post and left a mini-rant about how not to comment online. LOL Oh, well; maybe I should have said, "I like your clean, dead lines" instead rofl!

Anyway, I think it's good to bring in illustration styles that are not the typical ones you find in super-hero comics. It infuses the P:R contests with a creativity that's not constrained by the visual tropes of the genre. The winning entries from this contest are definitely outside the standard American comics look.
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jacksonjedge Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013
That's hilarious. Who was it? I would love to echo the Karacas statement, and hopefully give them some delusions about it. Though, I would consider those "scratchy, dead lines". I don't even know what the standard American comics look is nowadays. I did really like the winner's eyelashes though.
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